Oscilloscope - Revision history

Marco-Guerini: added CRT alternative

2024-12-30T15:41:37Z

added CRT alternative

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	* HS101 http://hscope.martinloren.com/HS101-oscilloscope.html		* HS101 http://hscope.martinloren.com/HS101-oscilloscope.html
	* DroidOscillo https://hackaday.io/project/26360-android-oscilloscope-droidoscillo		* DroidOscillo https://hackaday.io/project/26360-android-oscilloscope-droidoscillo
	* DSO-138 https://www.reichelt.de/dso-138-oszilloskop-1-kanal-200-khz-12-bit-joy-it-dso-138-p209775.html?&trstct=pol_0&nbc=1
	* SmartScope https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/751733865/smartscope-reinventing-the-oscilloscope		* SmartScope https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/751733865/smartscope-reinventing-the-oscilloscope
	* FNIRSI 1014D DSO https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQKuHJELEOs		* FNIRSI 1014D DSO https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQKuHJELEOs
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	== Alternatives ==		== Alternatives ==
			==== Software 'Scope ====
	A cheap alternative for beginners with low budget is to use a [[Software_Oscilloscopes\|Software Oscilloscope]]. These solutions rely on your computer for all of the data processing and use a secondary device (such as an Arduino or sound card) for data acquisition.		A cheap alternative for beginners with low budget is to use a [[Software_Oscilloscopes\|Software Oscilloscope]]. These solutions rely on your computer for all of the data processing and use a secondary device (such as an Arduino or sound card) for data acquisition.

			==== uC-Based "Kit" Oscilloscopes ====
	An even cheaper (<20 Euros) alternative, although limited in scope, is one of the microcontroller-based oscilloscopes, either available as a DIY kit or a fully-assembled product. They can be found under the ''DSO138 Oscilloscope'' name on the Internet. They are limited in bandwidth (although plenty enough for the examples in THAT booklet) and single-channel only, with no XY capabilities, but the price is hard to beat.		An even cheaper (<20 Euros) alternative, although limited in scope, is one of the microcontroller-based oscilloscopes, either available as a DIY kit or a fully-assembled product. They can be found under the ''DSO138 Oscilloscope'' name on the Internet. They are limited in bandwidth (although plenty enough for the examples in THAT booklet) and single-channel only, with no XY capabilities, but the price is hard to beat.

			Here's a link (not affiliated) DSO-138 https://www.reichelt.de/dso-138-oszilloskop-1-kanal-200-khz-12-bit-joy-it-dso-138-p209775.html?&trstct=pol_0&nbc=1

	Could be realistically built by someone with some ''Arduino'' knowledge and some spare time as a personal project, maybe by adding XY capabilities.		Could be realistically built by someone with some ''Arduino'' knowledge and some spare time as a personal project, maybe by adding XY capabilities.
	Good to bring around inside THAT box for patching problems on the go!		Good to bring around inside THAT box for patching problems on the go!

			==== Old CRT Oscilloscopes ====
			If capable of repairing and/or mantaining an old CRT oscillscope, an older model from the 1970's or 1980's may well be worth your time. Even though bandwidth may not surpass the tens of megahertz, it's still quite a lot and usable for all THAT experiments someone may devise. XY mode is almost always a given, but won't have more than two channels.
			Price is variable, but can be found for quite less than 100E on usual online platforms.

	[[Category:Hardware]]		[[Category:Hardware]]

Marco-Guerini: /* Alternatives */

2024-12-29T20:18:15Z

Alternatives

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	A cheap alternative for beginners with low budget is to use a [[Software_Oscilloscopes\|Software Oscilloscope]]. These solutions rely on your computer for all of the data processing and use a secondary device (such as an Arduino or sound card) for data acquisition.		A cheap alternative for beginners with low budget is to use a [[Software_Oscilloscopes\|Software Oscilloscope]]. These solutions rely on your computer for all of the data processing and use a secondary device (such as an Arduino or sound card) for data acquisition.

	An even cheaper alternative, although limited in scope, is one of the microcontroller-based oscilloscopes, either available as a DIY kit or a fully-assembled product. They can be found under the ''DSO138 Oscilloscope'' name on the Internet. They are limited in bandwidth (although plenty enough for the examples in THAT booklet) and single-channel only, with no XY capabilities, but the price is hard to beat.		An even cheaper (<20 Euros) alternative, although limited in scope, is one of the microcontroller-based oscilloscopes, either available as a DIY kit or a fully-assembled product. They can be found under the ''DSO138 Oscilloscope'' name on the Internet. They are limited in bandwidth (although plenty enough for the examples in THAT booklet) and single-channel only, with no XY capabilities, but the price is hard to beat.
	Could be realistically built by someone with some ''Arduino'' knowledge and some spare time as a personal project, maybe by adding XY capabilities.		Could be realistically built by someone with some ''Arduino'' knowledge and some spare time as a personal project, maybe by adding XY capabilities.
	Good to bring around inside THAT box for patching problems on the go!		Good to bring around inside THAT box for patching problems on the go!

	[[Category:Hardware]]		[[Category:Hardware]]

Marco-Guerini: Added DSO138 paragraph in the Alternatives section

2024-12-29T20:17:08Z

Added DSO138 paragraph in the Alternatives section

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	== Alternatives ==		== Alternatives ==
	A cheap alternative for beginners with low budget is to use a [[Software_Oscilloscopes\|Software Oscilloscope]]. These solutions rely on your computer for all of the data processing and use a secondary device (such as an Arduino or sound card) for data acquisition.		A cheap alternative for beginners with low budget is to use a [[Software_Oscilloscopes\|Software Oscilloscope]]. These solutions rely on your computer for all of the data processing and use a secondary device (such as an Arduino or sound card) for data acquisition.

			An even cheaper alternative, although limited in scope, is one of the microcontroller-based oscilloscopes, either available as a DIY kit or a fully-assembled product. They can be found under the ''DSO138 Oscilloscope'' name on the Internet. They are limited in bandwidth (although plenty enough for the examples in THAT booklet) and single-channel only, with no XY capabilities, but the price is hard to beat.
			Could be realistically built by someone with some ''Arduino'' knowledge and some spare time as a personal project, maybe by adding XY capabilities.
			Good to bring around inside THAT box for patching problems on the go!

	[[Category:Hardware]]		[[Category:Hardware]]

Jirka: Added FNIRSI 1014D DSO

2023-12-26T00:39:28Z

Added FNIRSI 1014D DSO

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	* DSO-138 https://www.reichelt.de/dso-138-oszilloskop-1-kanal-200-khz-12-bit-joy-it-dso-138-p209775.html?&trstct=pol_0&nbc=1		* DSO-138 https://www.reichelt.de/dso-138-oszilloskop-1-kanal-200-khz-12-bit-joy-it-dso-138-p209775.html?&trstct=pol_0&nbc=1
	* SmartScope https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/751733865/smartscope-reinventing-the-oscilloscope		* SmartScope https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/751733865/smartscope-reinventing-the-oscilloscope
			* FNIRSI 1014D DSO https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQKuHJELEOs

	=== Medium requirements ===		=== Medium requirements ===

Lee: Cleaning up some of the software oscilloscope sections.

2022-05-31T17:40:48Z

Cleaning up some of the software oscilloscope sections.

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	== Alternatives ==		== Alternatives ==
	~~There is a cheaper~~ alternative for beginners with low budget ~~while using~~ a [[~~Soundcard~~ Oscilloscope]] ~~software~~. These solutions ~~are based~~ on ~~using a sound input~~ of the ~~computer and a software to display the signal while reading digitized~~ data of AD converters on the soundcard. If your computer contains a sound input you are lucky as you can get the software for free. Unfortunately many newer computers no more have classical sound input in stereo (so called 'line-in') and ~~if so it is mostly only~~ a ~~microphone input as mono~~ (~~1 channel instead of 2). This is the same lack~~ as an ~~oscilloscope with only 1 input channel.~~		A cheap alternative for beginners with low budget is to use a [[Software_Oscilloscopes\|Software Oscilloscope]]. These solutions rely on your computer for all of the data processing and use a secondary device (such as an Arduino or sound card) for data acquisition.

	~~If you are a bit into tinkering, we have a guide~~ for ~~setting up a [[Teensy]] microcontroller as a cheap 8 channel DSO~~.


	[[Category:Hardware]]		[[Category:Hardware]]

Sven: +Hantek

2021-11-02T13:28:54Z

+Hantek

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	== Requirements for Oscilloscopes with The Analog Thing ==		== Requirements for Oscilloscopes with The Analog Thing ==
			[[File:Hantek IMG 0413.jpg\|thumb\|A nice entry level DSO: [[Hantek USB DSO]]]]
	=== Minimum requirements (cheap devices) ===		=== Minimum requirements (cheap devices) ===
	* analog oscilloscope with CRT display or software display while connected to computer		* analog oscilloscope with CRT display or software display while connected to computer
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	Recommendations:		Recommendations:
			* [[Hantek USB DSO]] (79€ entry price)
	* [https://www.meilhaus.de/picoscope-2000.htm Picoscope] (125€ entry price)		* [https://www.meilhaus.de/picoscope-2000.htm Picoscope] (125€ entry price)
	* [https://store.digilentinc.com/analog-discovery-2-100msps-usb-oscilloscope-logic-analyzer-and-variable-power-supply/ Analog Discovery 2] (280€ for academic)		* [https://store.digilentinc.com/analog-discovery-2-100msps-usb-oscilloscope-logic-analyzer-and-variable-power-supply/ Analog Discovery 2] (280€ for academic)
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	* 4 channels or separate trigger input		* 4 channels or separate trigger input
	* DSO type (digital storage)		* DSO type (digital storage)

			Recommendations:
			* [https://www.meilhaus.de/siglent-sds1000x-e.htm Siglent SDS1000X-E] (about 400€)

	== Alternatives ==		== Alternatives ==
	There is a cheaper alternative for beginners with low budget while using a [[Soundcard Oscilloscope]] software. These solutions are based on using a sound input of the computer and a software to display the signal while reading digitized data of AD converters on the soundcard. If your computer contains a sound input you are lucky as you can get the software for free. Unfortunately many newer computers no more have classical sound input in stereo (so called 'line-in') and if so it is mostly only a microphone input as mono (1 channel instead of 2). This is the same lack as an oscilloscope with only 1 input channel.		There is a cheaper alternative for beginners with low budget while using a [[Soundcard Oscilloscope]] software. These solutions are based on using a sound input of the computer and a software to display the signal while reading digitized data of AD converters on the soundcard. If your computer contains a sound input you are lucky as you can get the software for free. Unfortunately many newer computers no more have classical sound input in stereo (so called 'line-in') and if so it is mostly only a microphone input as mono (1 channel instead of 2). This is the same lack as an oscilloscope with only 1 input channel.

			If you are a bit into tinkering, we have a guide for setting up a [[Teensy]] microcontroller as a cheap 8 channel DSO.


	[[Category:Hardware]]		[[Category:Hardware]]

TimStinchcombe: minor spelling & readability

2021-09-19T17:51:14Z

minor spelling & readability

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	An '''Oscilloscope''' is an essential measurement device when doing analog computing. Nevertheless, even cheap entry level devices cost more ~~then~~ 200 EUR. This page shall document how to use oscilloscopes with [[THAT]] and gives recommendations about devices are suitable for working with [[The Analog Thing]]. If you don't want to spend money on an oscilloscope, a [[Software Oscilloscope]] maybe an alternative.		An '''Oscilloscope''' is an essential measurement device when doing analog computing. Nevertheless, even cheap entry level devices cost more than 200 EUR. This page shall document how to use oscilloscopes with [[THAT]] and gives recommendations about devices that are suitable for working with [[The Analog Thing]]. If you don't want to spend money on an oscilloscope, a [[Software Oscilloscope]] maybe an alternative.

	== Using Oscilloscopes ==		== Using Oscilloscopes ==
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	Recommendations:		Recommendations:
	* [https://www.meilhaus.de/picoscope-2000.htm Picoscope] (125€ entry ~~prize~~)		* [https://www.meilhaus.de/picoscope-2000.htm Picoscope] (125€ entry price)
	* [https://store.digilentinc.com/analog-discovery-2-100msps-usb-oscilloscope-logic-analyzer-and-variable-power-supply/ Analog Discovery 2] (280€ for academic)		* [https://store.digilentinc.com/analog-discovery-2-100msps-usb-oscilloscope-logic-analyzer-and-variable-power-supply/ Analog Discovery 2] (280€ for academic)
	* [https://www.analog.com/en/design-center/evaluation-hardware-and-software/evaluation-boards-kits/adalm2000.html#eb-overview ADMAL2000]		* [https://www.analog.com/en/design-center/evaluation-hardware-and-software/evaluation-boards-kits/adalm2000.html#eb-overview ADMAL2000]

Sven: Moving text from Software Oscilloscopes

2021-08-06T08:06:17Z

Moving text from Software Oscilloscopes

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-An '''Oscilloscope''' is an essential measurement device when doing analog computing. Nevertheless, even cheap entry level devices cost more then 200 EUR. This page shall document which cheap devices are suitable for working with [[The Analog Thing]]. If you don't want to spend money on an oscilloscope, a [[Software Oscilloscope]] maybe an alternative.
+An '''Oscilloscope''' is an essential measurement device when doing analog computing. Nevertheless, even cheap entry level devices cost more then 200 EUR. This page shall document how to use oscilloscopes with [[THAT]] and gives recommendations about devices are suitable for working with [[The Analog Thing]]. If you don't want to spend money on an oscilloscope, a [[Software Oscilloscope]] maybe an alternative.
-== List of cheap devices ==
+== Using Oscilloscopes ==
 * HS101 http://hscope.martinloren.com/HS101-oscilloscope.html
 * DroidOscillo https://hackaday.io/project/26360-android-oscilloscope-droidoscillo
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 * SmartScope https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/751733865/smartscope-reinventing-the-oscilloscope
-== List of cheapest devices ==
+=== Medium requirements ===
-* [https://www.meilhaus.de/picoscope-2000.htm Picoscope] (125€ entry prize)
+* 4 channels or separate trigger input
-* [https://store.digilentinc.com/analog-discovery-2-100msps-usb-oscilloscope-logic-analyzer-and-variable-power-supply/ Analog Discovery 2] (280€ for academic)
+* DSO type (digital storage)
-* [https://www.analog.com/en/design-center/evaluation-hardware-and-software/evaluation-boards-kits/adalm2000.html#eb-overview ADMAL2000]
 [[Category:Hardware]]

Sven: +3 links from Dirk

2021-07-31T15:36:25Z

+3 links from Dirk

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	* DSO-138 https://www.reichelt.de/dso-138-oszilloskop-1-kanal-200-khz-12-bit-joy-it-dso-138-p209775.html?&trstct=pol_0&nbc=1		* DSO-138 https://www.reichelt.de/dso-138-oszilloskop-1-kanal-200-khz-12-bit-joy-it-dso-138-p209775.html?&trstct=pol_0&nbc=1
	* SmartScope https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/751733865/smartscope-reinventing-the-oscilloscope		* SmartScope https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/751733865/smartscope-reinventing-the-oscilloscope

			== List of cheapest devices ==
			* [https://www.meilhaus.de/picoscope-2000.htm Picoscope] (125€ entry prize)
			* [https://store.digilentinc.com/analog-discovery-2-100msps-usb-oscilloscope-logic-analyzer-and-variable-power-supply/ Analog Discovery 2] (280€ for academic)
			* [https://www.analog.com/en/design-center/evaluation-hardware-and-software/evaluation-boards-kits/adalm2000.html#eb-overview ADMAL2000]

			[[Category:Hardware]]

Sven: Sven moved page Oscilloscopes to Oscilloscope

2021-07-24T01:41:30Z

Sven moved page Oscilloscopes to Oscilloscope

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